I scanned through the forums that came up with "kinetics" and could not find what I am looking for, but I know VIPEr people know the answer to this question: I am looking for an example of kinetics versus thermodynamics control of an ambidentate ligand, i.e., M + XY ---> M-XY initially (kinetics control) ---> M-YX (eventually, thermodynamic product). Any examples of M and XY (obviously "XY" is generic, could be SCN-, et al.)? I would also add into this question a case where M + L ---> M-L in one geometry initially ----> M-L in another geometry eventually, so maybe something like MX4 sq pl + L --> MX4L sq pyr ---> M4XL tbp (this is not a ligand substitution, i.e., MX4 + L ---> [MX4L] ---> MX3L + X, but a kinetics geometry versus a thermodynamic one). Thanks.